WP 16 | The 3 Pillars of a Productive Practice with Uriah Guilford
Summary
Whitney Owens, the host of the Wise Practice Podcast, is joined by Uriah Gilford, a licensed marriage and family therapist and the owner of a group practice in Northern California. Uriah is also the creator of Productive Therapist, a virtual assistant company that serves therapists in private practice. In this lighthearted and engaging conversation, Whitney and Uriah discuss the pillars of productivity for a therapy office.
In today's fast-paced world, productivity is a crucial aspect of both our personal and professional lives. Whether it's getting through your daily to-do list or working on a complex project, being productive can mean the difference between success and failure. In this blog post, we'll be discussing the conversation around productivity and its three main pillars.
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The First Pillar of Productivity is Personal Productivity
The first pillar of productivity is personal productivity. This refers to your ability to manage your time and focus on the tasks that matter most. It means being able to prioritize your tasks, set realistic goals, and make the most of your time. To achieve this, you need to understand your own work style and habits, and learn how to make the most of your time. For example, you can use tools like calendars, to-do lists, and timers to keep track of your progress and ensure that you're on track.
Personal productivity is all about utilizing your time and energy in the most effective way possible. This includes developing habits and routines that maximize your potential and help you stay focused and on track. Whitney mentions several strategies for improving personal productivity such as setting clear goals, prioritizing tasks, and taking regular breaks.
The Second Pillar of Productivity is Pretty Good Organization
Organization is crucial for productivity as it allows individuals and businesses to stay on top of tasks and responsibilities. Whitney highlights the importance of creating a system for managing tasks and information, such as using a to-do list or a productivity app. He also suggests implementing a process for filing and storing important documents and information.
The Third Pillar of Productivity is Plenty of Delegation
Delegation is an essential aspect of productivity as it allows individuals and businesses to distribute tasks and responsibilities, freeing up time and energy for other important tasks. Whitney emphasizes the importance of delegating tasks to the right people and setting clear expectations and guidelines. The benefits of outsourcing tasks to professionals and using automation to streamline processes were also mentioned.
The Importance of Mindset and Habits in Productivity
The conversation also touched on the importance of mindset and habits in productivity. It's crucial to have the right mindset and habits in place in order to be productive. This means setting goals, being proactive, and avoiding distractions. It also means creating a routine that supports productivity and sticking to it, even when it's difficult. For example, you can get up earlier in the morning, turn off your phone, or find a quiet workspace to focus on your work.
Conclusion:
In conclusion, the conversation around productivity and its three main pillars has given us a valuable insight into what it takes to be productive. Whether it's personal, organizational, or deletional productivity, it's important to understand the role that each pillar plays in increasing productivity. By focusing on each of these pillars and incorporating the right habits and mindset, we can achieve our goals and be more productive in all areas of our lives. Remember, being productive isn't about working harder, it's about working smarter, and these three pillars can help you do just that.
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hitney Owens: Today on the Wise Practice Podcast, I have my friend Uriah Gilford, who's a licensed marriage and family therapist, and the owner of group practice in Northern California. He's the creator of Productive Therapist, a virtual assistant company that serves therapist in private practice. He's a technology nerd, a minimalist travel packer, a rock drummer, and a business development enthusiast.
Thanks for coming
Uriah Gilford: today, Uriah. Absolutely. Always a pleasure to talk to.
Whitney Owens: Yeah, definitely. And so I just wanna attest to you are all these things, and I've seen most of them, I don't think I've seen you drum yet. Um, we weren't gonna do that in Nashville, but that didn't happen. Oh, right. But the minimalist packer, like that was so impressive to me when I met you.
And I think it speaks a lot to the way you do your life. Right. And so when we got together for a retreat at, um, like lure, like you had this one backpack of what, three, four days of stuff, right? And then you showed me all your.
Uriah Gilford: Yeah, I'm really into it. I, I used to be a backpacker, like a wilderness backcountry, backpacker, and out of necessity you have to carry everything that you need.
So that translated nicely to travel packing and, um, I just love gear and I also love you're, you're right, it's a, it's a lifestyle philosophy and, um, about simplicity and just minimizing what, what I need to, to be happy and, and to, to get by. Yeah.
Whitney Owens: Well, and that's really kind of the brand maybe, or the origin within productive therapists, right?
Is the idea of simplifying things. I think practice owners really make things so complicated, and so can you share a little bit of the origins of the company and kind of the
Uriah Gilford: purpose behind it? Definitely, yeah. It wasn't my intention to start a virtual assistant business. I had a group practice and still do, and I basically needed to solve my own problem of needing part-time, um, administrative support and found somebody great and then decided to help my friends by, uh, allowing them to also work with this person.
And then in the process of, of building productive therapist, I realized I'm super passionate about. Productivity, organization, business development, all these things. So it just kind of revealed itself, thank you Lord , to, to be like, you know, like the perfect business for me in conjunction with being a therapist and serving the therapist community.
So it's honestly been super challenging along the way, but it's been really, really fun and something that I still love and like wake up in the morning excited to, to work. Man, not very many
Whitney Owens: people can say that about their lives, like getting excited about going to work. So we are very blessed. Yes. Um, and I just love that, that this great business idea.
And so many of 'em come out of our own passion and our own desire for something. And then we go in, we do it, and then we get to keep doing it, and then we get to get paid to do it. It's just fantastic. And I've watched you along the journey of. Developing productive therapists, but making it even more niched as you go to really serve the community well.
Could you talk a little bit about kind of the customers that come and how you
Uriah Gilford: serve them? Absolutely. So we started out helping any therapist, any mental health professional with a private practice, um, by pairing them with a virtual assistant that could handle their phone calls, incoming inquiries by email and do back office sort of EHR tasks and administrative.
And as we've moved along, we've just decided to focus more on group practices because they tend to need more administrative support. And it's, it's something that I know very well. And, um, I, I was thinking about it recently, like actually just this morning, driving to work. I was thinking like, gosh, what, what can we do for solo practice owners?
Because I care about the entire community, you know? But the, the business of productive therapist has kind of morphed into focusing on groups. But, um, I think all of. Content and tips definitely apply to any therapist in private. Oh a hundred
Whitney Owens: percent. And I've had several of the people I've consulted with solo practices of taking courses through productive therapists.
Tim, down, I'm super helpful. And so, yeah, maybe the VA services more niche for groups, which is great cuz you know your thing. But yes, lots of services and different things that you can offer to practice owners. So today we're gonna talk about the three pillars to a productive practice. I love the PS there.
So, um, you're always good at coming. Titles that I enjoy. Um, so let's talk about those three
Uriah Gilford: pillars. I'm telling you, the alliteration does not stop there, so just get ready. . Oh yes, . It's almost, uh, you know, to the point where it's like, is this forced? Is this sh is this what it should be? Or do I just want another P word?
Anyway, yes, both are good. Both are good. Yes. Uh, so I'm actually in the process of writing a book right now and creating, um, a premium program called The Productive Practice. The book is called The Productive Practice, and basically, The idea of being a productive therapist is wonderful, but what if your entire business, uh, was pro, was productive and functioning and efficient and simple?
Mm-hmm. , whether you're a solo practice or a group practice owner. So when I think about what a productive practice looks like, It's one that is not entirely dependent on the owner. So the therapist is not the one doing absolutely everything in the practice. Right. And I know you , I know you're a hundred thousand percent on, on board with that
Whitney Owens: Oh yeah. Well, I just talked to someone about that this morning and like this website I went to for another group practice, it was like the owner was the top person and it was work with our team on the website or work. The owner, like interesting, a separate dropdown to work with her. And I was like, really?
Like that's probably not the practice I want cuz I do not want all that attention
Uriah Gilford: on. Right, right. I literally just took my name off the door, so yeah. I'm, I'm on board . Yeah. I'm all about that. Yeah. So productive practice, not entirely dependent on the owner. Uh, the, the practice has efficient systems and a competent team, even if that team is super small, that's okay.
Um, and it's really a practice that serves the, the goals of the, of the business owner, of the, the. Helping them reach their personal and professional goals. So if someone was to read this book that's coming out, uh, in a couple months and follow the, the tips, um, that I'm gonna share in, in a brief form here, they should be able to free up about five to 10 hours per week of their time.
So that's number one desired outcome number two is the being prepared to hire an assistant, whether that's somebody in the office or somebody. Or more effectively delegate to their team and then as a result, make more money and just enjoy your life. So tho those are the outcomes that we're, that we're aiming for.
I, I don't think anybody listening to this would be like, ah, I don't know. I don't want any of those things. Right? , I sat
Whitney Owens: here and thought, I want all of it. And more .
Uriah Gilford: Yeah. Make more money and help more people. That's, that's what we wanna do, right? Mm-hmm. ambitious therapists who, who are on a mission with a, with a very clear vision.
So I am obsessed with organizing information. So , I created this, uh, this idea of a productive practice, uh, with three pillars, three main sort of focuses. And this is really truly not about marketing. It's not about starting a private practice. It's not a, there's a lot of things that this is not about, but it is focused on these three things.
The first pillar is personalized productivity. The second one is pretty good organization, and the third one is plenty of. and there's the peas . Awesome. Well, I'm
Whitney Owens: looking forward to diving
Uriah Gilford: into this. Yeah. So the first one, personalized productivity. It occurred to me that there's a ton of programs, ton of courses, a ton of coaches available for therapists.
In fact, there's never been more support, which is amazing. Um, but you can learn tips and strategies and approaches and frameworks. You can learn all kinds of, you can absorb all kinds of information, but if you don't. Good habits for your personal productivity, then you're not actually gonna get those things done right.
Um, so that's time management. That is, you know, making sure you're on top of your tasks and your calendar, basically making sure your life runs well enough for you to get things done. And the reason why I call it personalized productivity, because it has to be unique to you because the way you do things, Whitney, is not exactly the way I do things right.
Um, and so I, uh, there's a lot of productivity sort of experts out there, quote unquote experts and lots of different tools and, and suggestions. Like it's endless, right? Mm-hmm. , but at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is the things that you will actually consistently do that help you move your goals forward.
So it's gotta be personalized. Mm-hmm. . And I guess an example of that is, uh, I'm you. Constantly talking about the software tools that I use and, and I love using task managers and project management apps, and email marketing apps and, you know, a tool for everything. But when it comes down to it, if you, here, I, I've got some right here, if you need to use these, these are post-it notes, and, and a whiteboard or a corkboard or you know, any, any medium that you need to use to make sure that you're focused and you're getting the right things done.
It doesn't matter. So that's, that's one thing I like to, I like to share. As much as I like to use technology, it's not the right tool for every single person. Right. ?
Whitney Owens: Yes. I'm laughing because, you know, I am with technology. Um, but some technology actually is super helpful for me. But I love how you're saying that, and I think even in the business coaching that we do, it's not always just telling the person, oh, here's what you need to.
It's, well, what has worked, what hasn't worked, and how can we improve the productive things that are working for you personally? Like, well, if it worked when you used the post-it notes, why would you go do this other thing? Like, do the thing that's working, right?
Uriah Gilford: Yeah. . And the question along with the simplicity, uh, sort of focus is like, what, what if this was easy?
You know, what, what if you had very simple. Systems, uh, for your life that that actually worked. Um, and it's, it's no revelation to us as therapists, but habits are extremely powerful and those are the things that we do automatically without having to think or work too hard. So if you can try to install some really good habits that work for your personal productivity, that's gonna make the biggest difference.
I'll tell you one that I did recently, um, that will hopefully be helpful for folks. Mm-hmm. , I've constant, constantly been trying to figure out how to. delegate my email and not spend so much time checking and responding to email. So you think that I would have it down right? But I don't . So
Whitney Owens: I think you just had a podcast on
Uriah Gilford: this, right?
I did, because I've made some progress. Yes, yes. And I actually have a course on it. So Uhhuh , um, highly recommend that. But what's working for me now is a new habit that is so simple, and it's just this, I don't leave my email open all the. I close the tab and every time I need to check it, I have to go and log in again.
And then when I'm done processing my email, I just close it. It's that. That's it. Hmm. And so that's kept you off of it? It has. And that, I mean, that paired with having a virtual assistant who checks it three times throughout the day. So tho those two things together are helping me actually be incredibly more productive because I'm not constantly distracted by other people saying, Hey, I need something from.
In the form, in the form of email, right? Mm-hmm. . So that's, that's, that works for me.
Whitney Owens: So this is a random question, um, but I get this from people a lot. When your assistant goes into your email and responds, does your assistant let people know that they're the one responding or do they respond
Uriah Gilford: as you? It's totally personal preference, but I like them to respond and acknowledge that it's, that it's them.
Writing those words. Yes. And then she actually has her own signature that says, you know, assistant to your rye or something like that. That's the way that I like to do it. How about. Well,
Whitney Owens: I actually don't have anyone else checking my email. Yeah. Ah, . So with the consulting, it's, um, it's not so many that I can't get to it yet.
You know, maybe one day this podcast will be big time and I'll have all these email . Um, and then I do have my assistant for my practice, but I, if I get an email for her to respond to, I send it to her. But maybe this means I've done things well. I actually don't get very many emails that she could respond to that I can't that like most of them are just for me, is what I'm saying.
Right, right. So maybe I've, uh, done a good job making sure everyone knows who to email so that I'm not getting any email. No, I
Uriah Gilford: think that's great. I actually have the same, same kind of situation where there's actually not a lot that she can handle entirely on her own. And so she more or less does sorting and like archiving and, and some responding like for some basic scheduling or rescheduling, those kind of things.
Yeah. Or if I'm like, next week I'm, I'm out of town on vacation, and so she'll be managing all of it and responding to people. So yes. Vacation about, yeah, that's, that is the goal. Okay. So there's a lot more that I have to say about personalized productivity, but I. The main message that I would have for your audience is to design it in a way that works for you and identify the areas that are not working.
Um, and so that, like I said, just comes down to how you're using your time, how you're managing your tasks, your projects, your email, um, your team, those kinds of things. And you kind of know if you're listening to this, you know, if it's not working. And so, uh, I would say apply some intentionality to, to that area of your life and business.
That's great. Yeah. So once you have your productivity, more or less working, it doesn't have to be perfect. And this is all about imperfect action to be honest. Um, then you, in, in this sort of framework that I've created, you move on to, to organization, um, and. They kind of, they kind of go together nicely, right?
So if you're pro, if you're organized, you're gonna be more productive. If you're productive, it helps you stay organized. Um, and I say, I call it pretty good organization. In fact, um, my team member who's helping me write this book, she was like, why would you call it pretty good organization? That doesn't sound like.
Is, as you know, it doesn't sound good. And I was like, well, let me explain it to you. So a lot of us can get stuck on spending too much time organizing all the things, whatever the, whatever the things are. , it could be your kitchen, it could be your email inbox, it could be, you know, uh, your policies and procedures and your Google Docs, or your Google Drive, right?
So at the end of the day, you just need to be able to find the things that you need and you need your team members. To be able to find the things that they need to do their job. That's it. So, yeah. You know, good. Good enough organization is, is what you want. Um, so for some reason, I just think my, one of my superpowers is organizing things.
Whitney Owens: Oh it is. Oh. And you have this ability with, um, mentally putting things mentally almost in an order. where things feel chaotic. Um, so I'm kind of over here laughing if you're wondering why I'm smiling, . So last weekend I cleaned up my daughter's room and I, she's six. I feel like I cleaned her room like every six months, right?
Mm-hmm. , there's just stuff everywhere
Uriah Gilford: you clean. Yeah. Oh
Whitney Owens: yeah. So then she's got all these sorting toys. Okay. And so like the little houses with certain colors, instead of the little people going to little houses or. The hedgehogs little spikes go inside of it. Okay. And you know, I gotta have it all done right?
Okay. Pieces have gotta go in the right place. So I'm like, organizing. And then she'll run in there and she sees her toys and she's like, oh, I'm gonna play with these toys. That's the whole point, right? But then she puts 'em all back in different boxes. And she puts, you know, the fruit from the pie sorting game into the house sorting game.
And I'm like, no, those don't go there. You know, but, but like kean, you talk about that, it's like, why do I spend all this time organizing for me when really it's not even fulfilling its function. It's function is for her to be able to play with it. She knows where it is. She's content. I'm the one that's freaking out that wants all the little houses done.
Right. and it makes absolutely no
Uriah Gilford: sense. I could relate way too much to that . Yeah, I guess we can do that. We could do that in our practices too, right? Kind of get sort of obsessive about things that actually don't really matter that much or Or help you get the thing done. Yeah. I'm gonna reflect on that cuz that's interesting.
I mean, it makes a lot of sense to me to. Organize and structure things in my, in my group practice in a way that is not just what I think is smart or the right way, quote unquote, but the way that actually works for my team. So I like that. I like that idea a lot. And one example, uh, I was just gonna say one example of pretty good organization is, uh, having a single location, um, for people to go to for everything related to, um, employee information, policies and procedures, um, kind of your standard operating procedures, anything like that.
Um, some people just use Google Drive, uh, a very well organized Google Drive can, can do a lot of that. I happen to use a tool called Way Book, which is sort of a, an organizational software to be the one source of truth for everything. So in my practice, if somebody needs to know, like, how do I sign up for the retirement benefit, we say Go Check Way book.
All the information is, is here at this, in this location. It's a way book.com. It's a really great software. Um, and so everything from all the information for onboarding a new clinician. To our continuing education, like just everything you could think of lives in this one place. And it's, um, quite easy to search and find.
So that's, I, I definitely go a little bit far farther than most people need to, but that helps me. No,
Whitney Owens: I love it. I actually, I don't know if you knew this, but I literally have a note on my iPhone called, um, practice and consulting recommendations and all the different, most of these are things you've said where I'm like, oh, that's a good resource, or, oh, I'm gonna use that and I'll definitely go back and look.
I love it. Um, so it's always really nice to have
Uriah Gilford: Yeah. You wanna hear something kind of, kind of fun for me? Uh, Uhhuh , so this company Way book, um, they, uh, I, I've met the owner and the founder and been involved with them on, on many levels. And the Productive Therapist logo is actually on their homepage as like one of the companies that works with WAY Book.
I just think that's really cool. Oh, that's so cool. Yay.
Whitney Owens: Well tell 'em to give you a back link,
Uriah Gilford: right. I'm an affiliate for sure. So ?
Whitney Owens: Yes. Oh, okay. Good to know. Good to know. Yeah. Okay. Anything else about the
Uriah Gilford: staying pretty organized? You know, I have lots to say about that, but um, I will. Direct people to the Productive Therapist podcast and, and our site for more information on that.
Um, and we'll move on to the delegation one. Yes, yes. Yeah. So the last one is Plenty of Delegation, and I think our last podcast interview when you and I talked was a, about. about this topic, and we talk about it all the time, right? Mm-hmm. , um, it really is the most powerful thing, most powerful lever that I've found to create the life that I want and also to be able to like, make the impact that I want.
Um, so the question here is who can do this besides me? Um, and that applies to solar practice owners. That applies to group practice owners. Um, and there's all kinds of fun ways to, to figure. What are the tasks and roles that you should hang onto versus the ones that you should give to somebody else?
Tends to be something along the lines of, stay with the things that you really love and you're particularly good at. You know, people have heard this advice probably, and then the things that you're actually not that good at, um, and you really don't like, those are the things you should figure out a way to delegate, right?
So if you hate bookkeeping like I do, you have a bookkeeper. That handles all of that. If you despise insurance billing like I do , you find somebody to help you with the insurance billing. Um, and this sort of journey of learning to delegate and improving that skill. Well, it, it's exactly that. It's a journey because it's not easy for any of us to let go of things that we've been very much in control of.
Um, but it's like, it's like the key to your freedom is what I say, . Oh, I love that. Yeah. Yeah. It really. ,
Whitney Owens: yeah. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. And I have a couple of things to say here. Um, and concerns I hear from practice owners mm-hmm. , I mean, one of 'em is, you know, if someone else does that thing, they're not gonna be as good at it as me.
Right. And so what do you, what do you think about that?
Uriah Gilford: That's the hardest thing for me cuz I'm a perfectionist. . Oh. I mean, I'm not a one on the engram, apparently I'm a three, but, um, . Yeah. I, I am very particular about many things, so I've worked hard to let go of that and, and resolve within myself that 80% as good as I could do it is good enough, right?
Mm-hmm. . So as long as it gets done, , I could give you an example recently of something, but. I had where I had to like stop myself and sort of bite my tongue and just approve something, say, yeah, it's good enough. And I, and I totally, I totally wanted to change it, . And it was actually just a document that, uh, I wanted to organize differently and, and present more like in a more, um, attractive graphic way.
But I was like, you know what? Just hold your tongue, your eye. It got done. And guess what? I didn't do it. Somebody else did it. And I just like gave my thumbs up and said, yes, let's go.
Whitney Owens: So
Uriah Gilford: let's just say on this, I'm sure, I'm sure.
Whitney Owens: Uh, well, and I, well, first of all, so like, what I'm hearing from you is this idea of, um, yeah, it might not be exactly up to our standard or our a hundred percent or whatever, but w we rather have a life outside of work.
Mm-hmm. , right? Mm-hmm. . So when we strive for that perfection, when we say this to our clients all the time that we're missing out on. . Right. Okay. So half the students shared this story this morning. Um, we just got our new nanny. Hallelujah. Delegate. Yes. Um, and so one of the, you know, I give her small tasks sometimes.
She had does, so she did the laundry. And it was not folded the way that I prefer it to be folded in. Man, you're gonna laugh at me. I, this morning I refolded almost every single thing in that basket. Yeah. Because I didn't like the way it was folded, and it's just like, why does that even matter? Oh
Uriah Gilford: my goodness.
It doesn't matter. Oh goodness. Doesn matter. Like, no, lemme ask you this, lemme ask you this question. Did you give her a tutorial on how you'd like things folded? I did not see why. Why not? I should have done,
Whitney Owens: why not? Well, See now we're, now we're doing some good business consulting. Yeah, right. I prob, I I did think about that.
It's, I actually realized that my standard is so insane that I should not make anyone have to do it. I like to fold it. The condo er,
Uriah Gilford: in it I do. No. The Marie Condo way. Yes. Oh, that's how I like to do it. I was actually trying to figure that out the other day cuz I was reorganizing one of my drawers. . Oh, I love it.
It gave me me so much more room. I was trying to remember how she, how she would fold the shirts so they like stand up on their own and you can see them . Oh, I'll,
Whitney Owens: I'll send you a video
Uriah Gilford: later. Okay. Good. Good, good, good. . Oh, that's, you know what? You know what occurs to me on that? Here, here's a pitfall that, that people can avoid.
If you are very particular about something and you try to delegate it, but you don't give that person all the information they need to do it the way you want it done, you will end up micromanaging them, frustrating them, and not getting the result that you want. So if, if there's so. In your life or your business that you just, for whatever reason, have to have a certain way.
I get it. Um, make sure that you communicate that whatever you have, whatever you have to do, make a video, write out a list, you know, make it very, very clear about the way you want things done. And then the delegation process works a thousand percent better. It just does. , thank you.
Whitney Owens: I'm gonna go talk, I'm gonna go, uh, fold some clothes with her and show her
Uriah Gilford: how I like it.
You're gonna make some instructional, uh, folding clothes videos? Yes. . Yes,
Whitney Owens: actually. And actually my daughter's in therapy and they were like, what life skill do you want a teach her? This was also this week. I said, how about folding a shirt? And then they were like, well, how do you fold the shirt? And I was like, Ooh, I'll show you.
Do you have a shirt? And so we like practice, so the therapists know how to teach. My six year old how mommy likes the shirt folded, so Oh my goodness. But. I'm delegating now. It's my six year old. Um, well this is, this is really great. Um, so let's, um, did we, did we cover all that
Uriah Gilford: one? I think, uh, we could say a lot more about it, but again, um, yes.
I think the, the reflection or the question that I would want folks to ask is how much am I doing and how. Could I do less ? That's it. Right? That's great. That's great. How could I do less? Yeah. Yeah. And,
Whitney Owens: and you know, I think we were talking about when people say, um, someone can't do it as well as me, I think the, the other flip part of this, um, at least what I've experienced is the people that I delegate to do it better than me.
Like mm-hmm. , especially those intake calls, like, I'd be so distracted by the next client or I'm stressed about the money. Or as the business owner, it's hard for them to wanna schedule with someone else cause they wanna schedule with me. And actually my assistant, her conversions are higher than mine.
She's got a lot more, and I hear her on the phone. She's so friendly and loving and not so like, busy like I am sometimes. And so that's so great cause she, she's got a lot more to give and, um, , but even leave some of my clinicians, I mean, honestly, they probably do therapy better than me in certain situations.
Mm-hmm. . And so really delegating those things out, my marketing director definitely does better than me. . I love it. That's so good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, great. Okay, so your book, um, it sounds really great and that's where we're gonna go into the details on the, on the pillars. And so do you know when that's gonna be coming out or how people would access.
Uriah Gilford: So the best thing you can do is get on our email list, um, as you can go to productive therapists.com/newsletter to jump on there. And of course, I'll be sharing that information. And my goal is to get it done by December 16th. So the deadline is on, and this is a, it's an ebook, so it's not like a traditionally published book, but, um, it is gonna have a physical format as well as an audio book.
So I'm, I'm really enjoy. Oh, that's gonna be
Whitney Owens: great. Love it. Um, yeah, and his email list, I'll just say that I'm on there and you give lots of really cool tips. Um, find it very interesting. You have great titles to your emails. Really draws me in. So I like that. And it's, along with that is the podcast that you're promoting on the email list, which I love your episodes.
Most of 'em are short, sweet, to the point. I can come away with something in 10. It's, it's fantastic. So if anyone's listening, make sure that you check out the Productive Therapist podcast as well. You're still coming? Yes. Well, of course. And um, so you have got a deal for our people today, so I appreciate that a lot.
Um, it's 50% off the v i p prep package, and that helps therapists get organized and ready to hire a virtual or in-house assistant. Can you talk a little bit, um, about that?
Uriah Gilford: Absolutely. So this is something we created to prepare therapists to work with us and, and actually be paired with a virtual assistant.
But we've found over time that it's incredibly valuable to, um, any, any practice owner who wants to move towards being more organized and delegating. So we've had quite a few people go through the program and just to kind of get their ducks in a row, make sure everything in their practice is ready to actually delegate.
And, um, it's, it's a 1 0 1 sort of hands-on program. It's not too expensive, it's 2 95. And for listeners of this podcast, you can get 20% off of that with the coupon code wise practice. Awesome.
Whitney Owens: And just wanna make sure that I, because I might have just said it wrong, is it 20% off? Is that right? Yes. Yes.
Okay, great. Awesome. Well, I appreciate that coupon code. It'll be really helpful for the listeners. Um, and then if somebody wants to get in touch with you, learn more, what
Uriah Gilford: should they. Head over to productive therapist.com. That's it. Awesome.
Whitney Owens: Great, great. And I think you're on Instagram as well and so if you wanna follow 'em on there too.
Yeah. Awesome. Yes, so alright, well thank you so much for taking the time to be on the show today and I
Uriah Gilford: appreciate it. Thanks, Whitney. Description text goes here
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